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Post by vanessajoyce on Jul 30, 2008 7:55:23 GMT -5
I agree on the time aspect. Unless there was a really good reason to do the typical 90 minute animated film, I'd say a nice little 30 minute or 45 minute mini-movie would do. Things I would love to see happen:
How WALL-E escaped being turned off . . . I'm assuming all the WALL-Es were turned off at the same time the BnL CEO was saying "Let's get the heck out of here!" So probably a lot of chaos, confusion. It's easy to see how one little robot would get missed. But exactly HOW did it happen? Was it something WALL-E himself had done (beginnings of personality) or was it just completely chance?
How WALL-E reacted when he realized he was all alone . . . I'm assuming (again) that in default mode he would just keep working without really noticing what had happened. But surely at some point he would "realize" that the humans were gone (perhaps when he has his first damage and goes to a "checkup station" to be fixed and no one shows up to fix him -- I'm thinking about the beginning of the game version of the movie). Perhaps it was at that point that he came to an "understanding" that if he wanted to live he'd have to keep himself alive.
Of course, the Hal stuff would be great too. In the game, we see Hal as a baby roach at the very beginning of the film when WALL-E is just another WALL-E in a line of WALL-Es to be checked.
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Post by smkndofpnutdssrt on Aug 12, 2008 11:45:54 GMT -5
My opinion on a sequel is kind of like my opinion on fan fictions. I refuse to read Wall-E fan fictions, however well written they may be, simply because I don't want my current perspective of the story to be skewed or changed. I like Wall-E the way it is. So if they make a sequel, even if it's good, it would ruin my perspective. Am I making any sense at all?
The sequel would need to be really really REALLY good for me to be satisfied. But like many have said, all that was needed to be said has been said. But I wouldn't mind a sequel that much.
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Post by trashbag on Aug 12, 2008 12:06:32 GMT -5
I really don't see a sequel happening. The movie just ended too well.
However, maybe they could make a follow-up short film, just to show what the characters have been up to. You know, just a short 5-10 minute film, kinda like Mike's New Car, except released theatrically (they already have a short film made for the DVD). I'd rather see that than a full sequel.
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Post by Norwesterner on Aug 12, 2008 14:20:11 GMT -5
A couple of comments in response to the various points here.
In their fairly "official" company biography, "To Infinity and Beyond: The Story of Pixar Animation Studios" (and yes, I have it in my library), author Karen Paik notes that Pixar dealt with the sequel issue early in their development, when Disney asked them to produce a cheaper, direct-to-video sequel of "Toy Story". Pixar studio chiefs John Lasseter, Ed Cantmull, and Steve Jobs came to decide that they just didn't want to dilute their growing culture and dedication towards excellence by developing separate "feature" and "TV/video" divisions within the company. So they essentially ruled out "cheap" video sequels of Pixar films forever -- and with Cantmull and Lasseter in charge of both Pixar, and Disney Animation as a whole now, that will stick.
So they decided to make "Toy Story 2" a top-quality feature sequel, and proceeded to largely scrap and redo the whole story line, within a deadline of just 9 months (as Disney was already rolling out the movie PR for a "Toy Story 2") -- a project that would normally take 4 years! Author Karen Paik noted in her book that redoing and producing "Toy Story 2" on such a tight deadline, in between "A Bug's Life" and "Monsters, Inc" almost bust the studio and its production staff! The result (as most of us have seen) I think though, was even better and more emotionally-compelling than the original "Toy Story"!
Given that a "Toy Story 3" is now in production, and a "Monsters, Inc. 2" is under active consideration; I think the studio will likely consider a "WALL•E 2". And given their dedication to absolute excellence, (Steve Jobs' mantra, "Insanely great!" seems still to be very much a "prime directive" at Pixar!) I think the studio can produce a WALL•E sequel that is every bit as good and compelling as the original "WALL•E" and "Toy Story 2"!
. . . But given that WALL•E's perhaps most endearing aspect was as a love story; I'd personally hope the feature would be a sequel of him with EVE, showing that love can last "happily ever after" . . . despite the occasional bumps and challenges . . . and that a prequel might perhaps accompany it as a short or DVD extra feature -- or perhaps make a worthwhile WALL•E 3, after the love story has run its course (making a third love story just wouldn't have much left to tell in it.)
But don't worry -- while DreamWorks unfortunately seemed to "mangle" the Shrek franchise with "Shrek The Third" ("Shrek 2" though, was as good or better than the original); given what Pixar put itself through to get "Toy Story 2" right, I don't believe they would allow anything less than an awesome sequel, or prequel, of WALL•E to go out their doors! They just wouldn't!
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Post by vanessajoyce on Aug 12, 2008 15:05:05 GMT -5
Exactly. And that's why I don't worry about it. If Pixar announces a WALL-E 2 is coming out, I have faith in them. I really actually like the fact that they are reasonable -- they don't say "No, we'd NEVER do a sequel!" or "Yes, of COURSE, we'll do one!" They wait for a GOOD story to come and THEN decide.
Unlike certain other studios that will remain nameless (okay, Dreamworks), they have lots of other fantastic ideas and don't have to rely on sequels to keep their company alive.
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Post by trashbag on Aug 12, 2008 16:15:39 GMT -5
If they can come up with a truly amazing story for the sequel, then I'm up for it. Still, I don't know what they could possibly come up with that would equal the original. Then again, I don't work at Pixar...
But you hit the nail on the head about Dreamworks. There's two more Shrek movies on the way, plus a Puss 'n' Boots spin-off. Not to mention all of the TV/holiday specials they're probably going to do. If they were smart like Pixar, they would've kept it at Shreks 1 and 2 (3 was already pushing it).
In fact, Shreks 1 and 2 were the only two movies they've made that I really enjoyed. All of their other movies really annoyed me, although I've yet to see Kung Fu Panda.
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Post by MidgardDragon on Aug 12, 2008 16:30:13 GMT -5
You're probably in for a treat with Kung Fu Panda, trashbag. It's up their with DreamWorks best, IMO.
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Post by trashbag on Aug 12, 2008 18:40:17 GMT -5
You're probably in for a treat with Kung Fu Panda, trashbag. It's up their with DreamWorks best, IMO. That's what I heard. And if I agree after I watch it, then let's hope they don't rape this movie like they did with Shrek.
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Post by MidgardDragon on Aug 12, 2008 18:41:17 GMT -5
You're probably in for a treat with Kung Fu Panda, trashbag. It's up their with DreamWorks best, IMO. That's what I heard. And if I agree after I watch it, then let's hope they don't rape this movie like they did with Shrek. And now you're in for some disappointment...they're already discussing having up to 4 sequels.
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Post by trashbag on Aug 12, 2008 18:45:02 GMT -5
Well... why am I not surprised?
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Post by MidgardDragon on Aug 12, 2008 18:46:11 GMT -5
Yeah, DreamWorks doesn't know how to let a good thing survive on its own merits. Still, at least maybe Kung 2 Panda or whatever it's called will be worth it.
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Post by vanessajoyce on Aug 12, 2008 20:03:58 GMT -5
Oh, fantastic. More Jack Black too, most likely.
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Post by vanessajoyce on Aug 12, 2008 21:26:23 GMT -5
Okay . . . here's Stanton's take at the French premiere . . . www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzAom4YbAEMFast-forward to 1:40 . . . "I love WALL-E too, but you'll just have to watch it again." I just burst out laughing at his reaction to the question. If you've seen the other "making of" documentaries, you don't have to watch the rest of it -- it's just repeating them but in French.
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Post by MidgardDragon on Aug 12, 2008 21:29:21 GMT -5
I'm guessing you didn't actually mean 8:20, since that's the credits? 3:20 maybe?
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Post by vanessajoyce on Aug 12, 2008 21:30:02 GMT -5
Whoa! You're right . . . I'll alter my original post.
Done! Sorry about that!
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