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Post by MidgardDragon on Sept 4, 2008 15:43:16 GMT -5
I was thinking about this today, during my rewatch. It seems hard-to-find and is an excellent part of why I love WALL-E so much, because it's a love story that doesn't say you have to have someone to be happy. It doesn't pair off every bot and human, just WALL-E and EVE, and that makes sense due to their personalities. In the long run not only does it celebrate love, it also celebrates individual personalities such as M-O and the Rogue Robots, as well as The Captain. I dunno, maybe this has been expressed before, but I thought it'd be a nice conversation to have.
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Post by Callandor on Sept 4, 2008 16:07:19 GMT -5
I love myself <33333  I love being an individual <333 its why people like me so much ;D Party hardy just be yourself and live life <3333 |
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Post by smkndofpnutdssrt on Sept 4, 2008 18:20:59 GMT -5
I agree. I hate movies where everyone has to "get with" someone else. I like when they concentrate on one pairing, because not only, like you said, does it show we can be happy alone, but it adds so much value to that one relationship and the lesson it teaches, whatever it may be.
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Post by Khodhum on Sept 4, 2008 18:45:22 GMT -5
As awesome as WALL-E and EVE are, the movie just wouldn't be the same without the supporting cast. The characters as a whole, because they are all who they are, make the movie what it is. I guess that could be said about any movie, but it's especially true with WALL-E.
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Post by fastdash9 on Sept 4, 2008 23:20:01 GMT -5
because it's a love story that doesn't say you have to have someone to be happy. It doesn't pair off every bot and human, just WALL-E and EVE, and that makes sense due to their personalities. Ah! Yes! Thank you! That's one of the things that actually annoys me in a lot of movies, when they pair everyone with everyone else! Even the quirky comic relief characters fall in love for god sake! Gah! |
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Post by Viva la Vida on Sept 5, 2008 0:34:02 GMT -5
The WALL-E/EVE love story was indeed very refreshing for that reason as well as others. You're forgetting about John and Mary, though. ;D
I'm certainly in no hurry to distort and mangle my natural self just to "fit in", especially seeing all the disgustingly vain attitudes and beliefs about love in today's misbegotten culture of instant gratification. Let's just say that I'm somewhat old-fashioned.
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Post by fastdash9 on Sept 5, 2008 0:43:34 GMT -5
You're forgetting about John and Mary, though.  Nah, we didn't forget (or couldn't have forgotten) about John and Mary. The point though is that the movie focused on the EVE/WALL-E relationship. The movie didn't really show too much into John and Mary's relationship, aside from the romantic ambiguity of when they first touched hands and the no splashing no diving sequence. Ah, sheer poetry. You have a way with words |
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Post by bkim on Sept 5, 2008 1:32:16 GMT -5
But John and Mary also represented the virtues of individualism. They had broken free of BuyNLarge's manipulation, as represented by their change in colored attire from blue to red, and in doing so discovered long-dormant human emotions, such as the joys of interpersonal communication, and quite possibly love.
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Post by Viva la Vida on Sept 5, 2008 2:33:35 GMT -5
Definitely true. I never meant to imply that John and Mary's little relationship had been forced or comformist in any way; they're quite the opposite, seeing as their chance meeting was the unintentional outcome of their separate interactions with WALL-E. The way that cute little robot's individualist personality rubbed off across the monotone, comformist Axiom society was nothing short of wonderful.
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Post by Castoro Chiaro on Sept 5, 2008 3:11:03 GMT -5
There was one more John/Mary scene that comes to mind: When everyone thinks Wall-E is dead, Mary whimpers, "Oh no...Wall-E." and leans against John's shoulder. Awww. I thought those two were an adorable couple.
As to the individuality thing...I never thought of it that way, MD, but you're right. That's why the romance in Wall-E was so refreshing. It wasn't about how everyone needs a signifigant other, but the importance of being one's self and expressing emotions, like love, curiousity, even grief. Without grief, Wall-E would've been left "dead", because no one would care that a robot was broken.
...I can't imagine what characters like Auto or M-O would be like in a relationship...
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Post by vanessajoyce on Sept 5, 2008 4:40:43 GMT -5
Very good observation, MD.  |
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Post by bima on Sept 5, 2008 12:01:34 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more with the title : A Love Story That Celebrates Individuality. Wall-E makes you think about yourself, about who you really are, even about your direction on life. People at The Axiom was so clueless they don't even know where they're going. I mean, they lived in this big, giant, spaceship with their own screen and virtual world. The people at The Axiom loose something really important: their individuality. They wear same clothes, they didn't know who they really are and they don't care. Wall-E shows us how important it is to know ourselves, to know your world, and to be human. Another amazing idea this masterpiece brings to us.  |
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Post by Khodhum on Sept 5, 2008 14:08:43 GMT -5
Whoa...I...don't think I realized that. Or if I did, I just didn't think about it.
Man, soon I'm going to have to compile a list of "things to look out for next time I watch WALL-E".
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Post by bima on Sept 5, 2008 14:34:19 GMT -5
Me too.  |
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