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Post by trashbag on Sept 9, 2008 16:20:44 GMT -5
It's now at $403,898,090 worldwide, according to the-numbers.
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Post by smkndofpnutdssrt on Sept 9, 2008 16:33:04 GMT -5
;D He already had to hitch a ride into outer space and save an entire race! Just imagine when she decides she wants a honeymoon in Alpha Centauri! Aahahahahahaha! Sorry, I had to! That is hilarious! |
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Post by MidgardDragon on Sept 9, 2008 22:05:58 GMT -5
It's now at $403,898,090 worldwide, according to the-numbers. Sweet, nice to see it's crossed that 400 million threshold! |
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Post by trashbag on Sept 10, 2008 6:03:39 GMT -5
Yep. And the site was happy to point out how even though it didn't open in any new major market this weekend, it still made just over $8 million worldwide.
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Post by vanessajoyce on Sept 10, 2008 7:36:41 GMT -5
WALL-E doesn't just have treads -- he has legs! ;D
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Post by bima on Sept 10, 2008 12:13:04 GMT -5
I hope Japanese and Australian could pull another 150 million. Is it possible?
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Post by vanessajoyce on Sept 10, 2008 12:46:27 GMT -5
"Ponyo" just made over $93.2 million US ($10 billion yen) in Japan. But that's Miyasaki and I don't know that a Pixar film could do that well.
Maybe with both the Japanese and Australian audiences put together, it could get an additional $75 million? I'm totally guessing here.
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Post by bima on Sept 10, 2008 12:53:07 GMT -5
I just browse Box Office Mojo, and I found that Finding Nemo made 102 million on Japan. Well, I guess Nemo is everyone favorite. I don't know if Wall-E could do that. Yeah, maybe 75-90 million from both Japanese and Australian.
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Post by smkndofpnutdssrt on Sept 10, 2008 15:05:56 GMT -5
My guess is Wall-E is going to do REALLY well in Japan. It's just that kind of movie that the Japanese have the ability to appreciate unlike stupid brainwashed Western peoples.
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Post by vanessajoyce on Sept 10, 2008 17:55:49 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm really hoping my $75 million is a very conservative estimate. I'd like to be "underconfident" and then be happy when I'm proved wrong. ;D
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Post by AtomicGreymon on Sept 10, 2008 19:33:53 GMT -5
It seems to me that WALL•E is just the type of movie the Japanese would love. Not only do they tend to embrace animation as simply another style of film (whereas in North America, the general consensus is that animation is synonymous with the family/children genre), they're also much more comfortable with the idea of technology that walks and talks over there, lol.
I've seen the opinion expressed that some were uncomfortable at WALL•E's portrayal of a human-made machine being capable of emotions that are supposedly the exclusive domain of humans (read: those with an immortal soul, lol). While such religious ideals may still be fairly strong here in North America (though mainly the U.S.), I don't think the average person in Japan would even think of this, whatever their religion. As an atheist, there are many things that bother me about religion, one of them being the incredibly human- and earth-centric ideas they propogate.
Personally, I like the idea of our world one day having a society of machines with AI; provided we're willing to grant them the rights they deserve once we create them. My favourite aspect of the end credits other than the unique art direction was the way it showed how humans and robots restored Earth and built a society together, with all the robots overriding their directives and base programming and functions in order to do this. I think it's the only sci-fi story I've ever seen involving AI that has that kind of co-operation and mutual respect; and I find it quite hopeful.
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Post by Norwesterner on Sept 10, 2008 22:27:22 GMT -5
A couple of other films portrayed at least one robot achieving equal rights with humans — BICENTENNIAL MAN with Robin Williams' "Andrew Martin" in 1999, and SHORT CIRCUIT 2 with Tim Blaney's "Johnny Five" in 1988. There was also Brent Spiner's "Data" on STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION on both TV and in four movies.
Like WALL•E, these were very satisfying to see in this regard.
The challenge will come though in sentience. Given that police for example, will need to send bomb disposal robots into potentially destructive situations for the foreseeable future; I think that some robots will need to be kept limited and non-sentient in awareness for such "life threatening" applications. Sentient robots or androids will have to come to recognize, and agree with, the need for such applications and limitations. Humanity will have to think carefully about how and when AI or sentience is given to robots, to avoid problems over robot rights, and possible robot "underclass" rebellions (as portrayed in some sci-fi movies) in the future.
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Post by AtomicGreymon on Sept 10, 2008 22:56:06 GMT -5
A couple of other films portrayed at least one robot achieving equal rights with humans — BICENTENNIAL MAN with Robin Williams' "Andrew Martin" in 1999, and SHORT CIRCUIT 2 with Tim Blaney's "Johnny Five" in 1988. There was also Brent Spiner's "Data" on STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION on both TV and in four movies. That's true... there was also the Doctor from Star Trek: Voyager, though he was only ever seen to have been granted full rights in an alternate future (I think he was even married to a human, lol). What all those have in common, though, is that they involve either a single, or very small number of individuals... though I haven't seen Bicentennial Man so I'm not sure about that one. Any sci-fi story that has humanity dealing with large number, perhaps even an entire society, of self-aware machines is when human behaviour usually starts to degenerate. One or two intelligent machines is a curiousity; many people would perceive hundreds, or thousands, as a threat. The Second Renaissance from The Animatrix is probably the best (and most depressing) example of this that I've seen... in watching that you realized that the humans in the Matrix movies got exactly what they deserved, for the most part. |
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Post by bkim on Sept 10, 2008 23:22:07 GMT -5
Sounds like you two probably enjoy the film A.I.: Artificial Intelligence. It, however, most certainly does NOT portray a society in which humans coexist peacefully with robots. But the good news is, once the human race dies off, the robots inherit the Earth.  |
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Post by Norwesterner on Sept 10, 2008 23:44:07 GMT -5
I have never seen A.I.: Artificial Intelligence. I've heard mixed reviews on it, and it's wound up being one of those that I'm just not all that sure I want to see. I mostly go for escapist, uplifting fare in my movies . . . which is why I've loved WALL•E so much!
The only place where humans seem to interact with large numbers of robots right now is in automobile assembly lines — and I've never heard what auto workers think of their robot co-workers. It might be an interesting case study for how to gradually introduce numbers of more and more intelligent and capable robots into human society.
But until we can figure out how to get Shiia and Sunnis, and Russians and Georgians, and others to stop blind prejudices and fighting amongst themselves, I don't hold out all that much hope that people will be very accepting or welcoming towards robots in society at large. Perhaps though, if robots possess some innocence and heart, along with their logic — like WALL•E or Johnny Five — they might just serve to reacquaint us with the best aspects of humanity . . . as Andrew Stanton has noted in his observations about WALL•E.
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